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IBIS INTERCONNECT MODELING AD HOC TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDA

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Next Meeting
Wednesday, February 11, 2008
8 AM US Pacific Time

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Agenda:
- Call for patents
- Opens
- Finish review of draft 15

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Minutes from January 28:

Attendees:
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(* denotes present)
Agilent                    - Radek Biernacki*, John Moore, Ken Wong
Ansoft                     - Denis Soldo
Cadence Design Systems     - Terry Jernberg, Brad Griffin
Green Streak Programs      - Lynne Green
Hewlett-Packard            - Rob Elliott
Intel                      - Michael Mirmak*
Mentor Graphics Corp.      - John Angulo*, Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov*
Micron Technology          - Randy Wolff
Sigrity                    - Sam Chitwood, Raymond Y. Chen, Tao Su, Brad Brim
SiSoft                     - Walter Katz
Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross*

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No patents were announced.

The team reviewed the latest draft, plus checked Rob Elliott's list of
changes.  Specific suggestions follow:

p.4: put line feed before a) and change indent before "each" to make Rule 2 
clear
   Bob: what about "can" language?  Team will consult IEEE and GEIA documents 
to confirm requirements

p. 5: curly brace in front of Number of Noise Frequencies

p.6, 8: decibel is not defined on page 6, but it referred to on page 7 (in other
   words, spell it out before full usage)

   Bob: x vs. *, is this a document standard?  Radek: we don't need to show it 
all the time.

p. 7: Radek: Change "Mixed-mode network parameters are described in the 
file..." to
"If the [Mixed-Mode Order] keyword is present," etc. 

p.9: Bob: "N12, etc." should be "N12, etc.,' with comma afterward;
   also, change keyword [Number of Frequencies] to [Number of Frequencies] 
keyword; insertion
   of keyword isn't consistent.

p. 9 - remove [Reference] from Example 2

p. 10 - remove [Reference] from Example 3

p. 10 - [Reference] argument impedances vs. [Reference] impedances

p. 11 - move examples 5 and 6 *after* [Network Data] ; 5, 6 and 7 should be 
together

p. 12 - Radek: "line termination character" should be "line termination 
character or sequence"

p. 13 - John, Radek: remove x from 2xn^2+1, as it's more natural 

p. 15 - x or multiplication symbol not consistent; 3x3, 4x4 not the same

p. 15 - add comma after "i.e."

p. 16 - inconsistent use of "three-port"; "3-port" should be used

p. 18 - "As shown," implies rule where none exists.  Make sure this is not a 
requirement.

p. 19 - Radek: "S parameters" without dash should be used; "S-parameter data" 
(as adjective) with dash;

p. 20 - vector equations and text should not be italicized

p. 20 - "kth" should NOT be superscripted

p. 25 - put final example with [End] here, copy of the immediately before

p. 28 - get rid of x; make fonts consistent on that line

p. 28 - "Y-parameters" versus "Y Parameters" should be consistent

p. 28 - Title here is a subsection, not the full Appendix title; invent a new 
title

p. 30 - remove "shall be" from "Finally, the single ended vector..."; add dash

p. 34 - add page numbers to references; correct with italics, no "on", copy 
standard citation

The team reviewed the final comments from Rob Elliott, with the following 
dispositions:
- p. 5: no example for Comments - team elected to ignore this

- use "network data" instead of "data" globally - "network data line" should be 
used

- "data lines" should be "network parameter data pairs" globally - Bob 
  suggested taking care about Version 1.0 rules}

- "entry"/"entries" vs. "network data lines", "data", etc. should be used 
globally

- Touchstone should also mandate that only one line termination sequence be 
  used throughout the entire file - team elected to ignore this

- use explicit multiplication symbol vs. x for "4 x 4", "n x n" - Radek 
suggested
  that we take a look at equations on page 20 and possibly use dot notation;
    Bob suggested that we follow common math conventions

- standardize use of ^ for power/exponential - the team rejected this in favor 
of
   using superscripts

- add examples showing [Reference] across multiple lines -
  Michael suggested we could do this with existing examples with small change; 
  Bob added that we put in comment line regarding ports, then put in 
references;  
  the new document will modify one existing example

ARs
- Team: Vladimir stated that the document should include two complete separate 
examples, 
      with as many functions as possible.
- Michael to obtain GEIA and/or IEEE rules for may, shall, will, must in 
standards - DONE
- Michael to list out Rob's suggested changes as a bullet list, so that global 
principles 
  can be settled before deciding. - 
DONE